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		<title>By: Alvin Koh</title>
		<link>http://www.skthew.com/2006/09/23/lee-kuan-yew-malaysians/comment-page-1/#comment-96381</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvin Koh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historically, Lee Kwan Yew&#039;s speeches has always been twisted and re-twsted by the Malaysian Malay Politicians to arose anger towards the Chinese.&#160;&#160;From the 1950s...&#160;&#160;&#160; 

All Chinese Malaysians&#160;and Chinese Indonesians knows exactly how the Gov&#039;t treats them.&#160;&#160;&#160;From their great grand parents, to their grand parents to their parents, to themselves and to their children.&#160; A recent evident was the Asia economic during 1998.&#160; THIS IS A FACT that Dr Mahathir has repeatedly deny publicly.&#160; How the Malaysian and Indonesian Gov&#039;t&#160;attidutes towards&#160;the Chinese shows how these Gov&#039;t see Singapore is no secrets.&#160;&#160;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historically, Lee Kwan Yew&#8217;s speeches has always been twisted and re-twsted by the Malaysian Malay Politicians to arose anger towards the Chinese.&nbsp;&nbsp;From the 1950s&#8230;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </p>
<p>All Chinese Malaysians&nbsp;and Chinese Indonesians knows exactly how the Gov&#8217;t treats them.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From their great grand parents, to their grand parents to their parents, to themselves and to their children.&nbsp; A recent evident was the Asia economic during 1998.&nbsp; THIS IS A FACT that Dr Mahathir has repeatedly deny publicly.&nbsp; How the Malaysian and Indonesian Gov&#8217;t&nbsp;attidutes towards&nbsp;the Chinese shows how these Gov&#8217;t see Singapore is no secrets.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />
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		<title>By: IT-Sideways: Tech Blog Malaysia: September 2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>IT-Sideways: Tech Blog Malaysia: September 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] side-effects from Malaysian-Singapore feud which has been developing ever since a few months ago..Lee Kuan Yew &amp; Malaysian ChineseCrooked BridgeNo lah - Hsien LoongThough it is true that many traffics are routed to Singapore for [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: DAP</title>
		<link>http://www.skthew.com/2006/09/23/lee-kuan-yew-malaysians/comment-page-1/#comment-61219</link>
		<dc:creator>DAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the Malaysian government who took out the topic. The government wish to bring down the chinese government of Pulau Pinang that time, the DAP stated that one and only area administrate by one Chinese will not affect the Malay status all over Malaysia. The government then stated Singapore Chinese government has neglected Malays in their country. I think the Malaysian government are very selfish. LEE was correct, we chinese gave Malaysia so much, and all we ask for is a Malysian Malaysia, not a Malay Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the Malaysian government who took out the topic. The government wish to bring down the chinese government of Pulau Pinang that time, the DAP stated that one and only area administrate by one Chinese will not affect the Malay status all over Malaysia. The government then stated Singapore Chinese government has neglected Malays in their country. I think the Malaysian government are very selfish. LEE was correct, we chinese gave Malaysia so much, and all we ask for is a Malysian Malaysia, not a Malay Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: thinker</title>
		<link>http://www.skthew.com/2006/09/23/lee-kuan-yew-malaysians/comment-page-1/#comment-37530</link>
		<dc:creator>thinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 05:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone can say 10 negative things about a hyundai car. anyone can also say 10 negative things about a rolls royce. what is the purpose? what is the repercussion? LKY is not a fool. He just figure that the&#160; purpose is just more important than the fallout.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone can say 10 negative things about a hyundai car. anyone can also say 10 negative things about a rolls royce. what is the purpose? what is the repercussion? LKY is not a fool. He just figure that the&nbsp; purpose is just more important than the fallout.</p>
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		<title>By: Like ICare</title>
		<link>http://www.skthew.com/2006/09/23/lee-kuan-yew-malaysians/comment-page-1/#comment-37090</link>
		<dc:creator>Like ICare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LKY may have said something&#160;that&#160;stirred its neighbours, but that&#039;s how the paranoid neighbours confronting the truth!&#160;If there isn&#039;t such a&#160;issue or it never exists, it would be reponded with a big laugh and I&#039;m sure LKY would have a new nickname.&#160;The outcome was obvious, and facing the truth is never the neighbours&#039; political and economic strategy, as long as&#160;they can pretend&#160;it never exists. The world would have responded negatively to LKY&#160;statement, but that isn&#039;t the case except the expected responds from the parties who can&#039;t face the truth.&#160;Judging the resource availability and the size of the country, how would one can imagine Singapore could become a developed nation with&#160;considerably highest GDP in the world?&#160; Are the&#160;popolution in Singapore&#160;both majority and minority marginalized and compilant as compared to it&#039;s neighbour impartial economic policy? I bet none of these neigbours can answer the question truthfully! Yet you would hear the remarks from an individual with complete unfounded statement which is a totally personal makeup remarks&#160;like... &quot;But when he goes to China, the Chinese there don&#8217;t want to listen to him. The Chinese in China don&#8217;t think much of him and it is a fact that he is marginalised by Chinese in the world&quot;. Such remark speaks for itself and it is indeed a laughing stock to me as a Chinese citizen in China. Contrary, we respect LKY (as a Chinese) for his remarkable achievement, and there are&#160;many social and economic aspects&#160;we can learn from Singapore! What creditability this individual has&#160;claiming the Chinese in China don&#039;t listen to a&#160;Chinese&#160;ethnic&#160;in Singapore who&#160;shares the similar cultural background?&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LKY may have said something&nbsp;that&nbsp;stirred its neighbours, but that&#8217;s how the paranoid neighbours confronting the truth!&nbsp;If there isn&#8217;t such a&nbsp;issue or it never exists, it would be reponded with a big laugh and I&#8217;m sure LKY would have a new nickname.&nbsp;The outcome was obvious, and facing the truth is never the neighbours&#8217; political and economic strategy, as long as&nbsp;they can pretend&nbsp;it never exists. The world would have responded negatively to LKY&nbsp;statement, but that isn&#8217;t the case except the expected responds from the parties who can&#8217;t face the truth.&nbsp;Judging the resource availability and the size of the country, how would one can imagine Singapore could become a developed nation with&nbsp;considerably highest GDP in the world?&nbsp; Are the&nbsp;popolution in Singapore&nbsp;both majority and minority marginalized and compilant as compared to it&#8217;s neighbour impartial economic policy? I bet none of these neigbours can answer the question truthfully! Yet you would hear the remarks from an individual with complete unfounded statement which is a totally personal makeup remarks&nbsp;like&#8230; &quot;But when he goes to China, the Chinese there don&rsquo;t want to listen to him. The Chinese in China don&rsquo;t think much of him and it is a fact that he is marginalised by Chinese in the world&quot;. Such remark speaks for itself and it is indeed a laughing stock to me as a Chinese citizen in China. Contrary, we respect LKY (as a Chinese) for his remarkable achievement, and there are&nbsp;many social and economic aspects&nbsp;we can learn from Singapore! What creditability this individual has&nbsp;claiming the Chinese in China don&#8217;t listen to a&nbsp;Chinese&nbsp;ethnic&nbsp;in Singapore who&nbsp;shares the similar cultural background?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: ktak</title>
		<link>http://www.skthew.com/2006/09/23/lee-kuan-yew-malaysians/comment-page-1/#comment-36159</link>
		<dc:creator>ktak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The remarks by Lee Kuan Yew must be seen in proper context.

LYK gave a speech during the IMF/World bank meeting in Singapore on 15 Sep 2006 (Raffles Forum: Reflections on Good Governance). The above controversial remarks was made during the Q&amp;A session in response to questions from the floor regarding &quot;the little red-dot&quot; surrounded by green, the famous dressing down by former Indonesian PM Habibie years ago. Habibie wanted LKY to endorse him together with the Chinese in Indonesia and he refused. Also, he mentioned about the causeway/crooked bridge problem with Malaysia (Mahathir).

Watch the video first and comment.

&lt;strong&gt;Raffles Forum: Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew: Reflections on Good Governance&lt;/strong&gt;

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3 (Q&amp;A where LKY make the remark)

&lt;strong&gt;http://www.channelnewsasia.com/s2006/raffles-lky.htm&#160;
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Quote LKY:

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;My hope is that there will be a government as equal to the job as the PAP was.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;We&#039;ve structured the system such that the competent group that gets in will find a machine that works ... run the system properly on the basis of merit, not nepotism, and you&#039;ll always find a way out of a problem.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&quot;At the end of the day, what every citizen wants is a good life, security, good health, good housing, good education and a future for their children. That&#039;s good governance,&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&#160;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The remarks by Lee Kuan Yew must be seen in proper context.</p>
<p>LYK gave a speech during the IMF/World bank meeting in Singapore on 15 Sep 2006 (Raffles Forum: Reflections on Good Governance). The above controversial remarks was made during the Q&amp;A session in response to questions from the floor regarding &quot;the little red-dot&quot; surrounded by green, the famous dressing down by former Indonesian PM Habibie years ago. Habibie wanted LKY to endorse him together with the Chinese in Indonesia and he refused. Also, he mentioned about the causeway/crooked bridge problem with Malaysia (Mahathir).</p>
<p>Watch the video first and comment.</p>
<p><strong>Raffles Forum: Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew: Reflections on Good Governance</strong></p>
<p>Part 1<br />
Part 2<br />
Part 3 (Q&amp;A where LKY make the remark)</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/s2006/raffles-lky.htm&#038;nbsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.channelnewsasia.com/s2006/raffles-lky.htm&#038;nbsp</a>;<br />
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Quote LKY:</p>
<p><strong>&quot;My hope is that there will be a government as equal to the job as the PAP was.</strong></p>
<p><strong>&quot;We&#8217;ve structured the system such that the competent group that gets in will find a machine that works &#8230; run the system properly on the basis of merit, not nepotism, and you&#8217;ll always find a way out of a problem.&quot;</strong></p>
<p><strong>&quot;At the end of the day, what every citizen wants is a good life, security, good health, good housing, good education and a future for their children. That&#8217;s good governance,&quot;</strong>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Jin Hou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jin Hou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 06:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought LKY&#039;s comments are correct.

Malaysia do have official discriminatory policies engrained in its public policy, and therefore Malaysian Chinese are systematically marginalized.&#160; Malaysian Chinese leaders from MCA and Gerakan are also compliant to the whims and fancies of UMNO.&#160; The Malaysian Chinese are also compliant to the point where we practice self censorship whenever it comes to &#039;sensitive&#039; issues.

And yes, the government do want Singapore to be compliant to Malaysia.&#160; I mean, which government does not want to exert strategic influence on its neighbors?&#160; I&#039;m sure Singapore wants Malaysia to be compliant too!

The disturbing phenomena is that politicians still try to delude the &#039;rakyat&#039; that Chinese are not discriminated against with their doublespeak.&#160; Well, I believe Mahathir himself admitted that Chinese are discriminated against just before he stepped down from power.&#160; 

Whether discrimination is a worthy sacrifice for peace, or whether it is beneficial for the recipients of the affirmative action, are different topics altogether.&#160; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought LKY&#8217;s comments are correct.</p>
<p>Malaysia do have official discriminatory policies engrained in its public policy, and therefore Malaysian Chinese are systematically marginalized.&nbsp; Malaysian Chinese leaders from MCA and Gerakan are also compliant to the whims and fancies of UMNO.&nbsp; The Malaysian Chinese are also compliant to the point where we practice self censorship whenever it comes to &#8217;sensitive&#8217; issues.</p>
<p>And yes, the government do want Singapore to be compliant to Malaysia.&nbsp; I mean, which government does not want to exert strategic influence on its neighbors?&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure Singapore wants Malaysia to be compliant too!</p>
<p>The disturbing phenomena is that politicians still try to delude the &#8216;rakyat&#8217; that Chinese are not discriminated against with their doublespeak.&nbsp; Well, I believe Mahathir himself admitted that Chinese are discriminated against just before he stepped down from power.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Whether discrimination is a worthy sacrifice for peace, or whether it is beneficial for the recipients of the affirmative action, are different topics altogether.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: bayi</title>
		<link>http://www.skthew.com/2006/09/23/lee-kuan-yew-malaysians/comment-page-1/#comment-36112</link>
		<dc:creator>bayi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lubokmelayu

it&#039;s not my intention to get into an unproductive discussion. both dirty harry and mahathir are brainy chaps. no one has denied that. dr mahathir is respected in many ways. so is harry lee. harry lee has made singapore what it is today. but that&#039;s no big achievement because he worked on easy material and no subsidy mentality. dr mahathir has made advances that even harry has to admire but the subsidy mentality in malaysia is preventing the country from being truly glorious.&#160;

and what&#039;s so obvious about harry&#039;s observation? i think hishamuddin, kj and the lot making all the noise with the keris drawn out can answer this. period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lubokmelayu</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not my intention to get into an unproductive discussion. both dirty harry and mahathir are brainy chaps. no one has denied that. dr mahathir is respected in many ways. so is harry lee. harry lee has made singapore what it is today. but that&#8217;s no big achievement because he worked on easy material and no subsidy mentality. dr mahathir has made advances that even harry has to admire but the subsidy mentality in malaysia is preventing the country from being truly glorious.&nbsp;</p>
<p>and what&#8217;s so obvious about harry&#8217;s observation? i think hishamuddin, kj and the lot making all the noise with the keris drawn out can answer this. period.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Rezal Abee only made LKY point. His piece on confirm how most Malays just don&#039;t get it about what harm is being done against their fellow-citizen.&#160; Rezal Abee logic is that if a victim overcome great odds and harm, then its proof that criminal is NOT guilty? It seems being hardworking and smart and giving sacrfice to benefit evil and perpetrator is justice to people that agree with Rezal Abee

This kind of logic only confirm what LKY said its neigbours would like it to be..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Rezal Abee only made LKY point. His piece on confirm how most Malays just don&#8217;t get it about what harm is being done against their fellow-citizen.&nbsp; Rezal Abee logic is that if a victim overcome great odds and harm, then its proof that criminal is NOT guilty? It seems being hardworking and smart and giving sacrfice to benefit evil and perpetrator is justice to people that agree with Rezal Abee</p>
<p>This kind of logic only confirm what LKY said its neigbours would like it to be..</p>
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		<title>By: hiden iden</title>
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		<dc:creator>hiden iden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Rezal Abee is talking nonsense. Whoever uses the income per capita to compare the wealth amongst the races are of shallow thinking.&#160; the reason why chinese are having higher income per capita is becos our head count is low, thus causing the based value of the calculation to the lower.&#160;

&lt;b&gt;[SK] Please DO NOT hijack the topic by telling us the human production statistic. The context here is about Lee Kuan Yew and Malaysians, don&#039;t bring racial issues into the discussion, stick to the topic!&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Rezal Abee is talking nonsense. Whoever uses the income per capita to compare the wealth amongst the races are of shallow thinking.&nbsp; the reason why chinese are having higher income per capita is becos our head count is low, thus causing the based value of the calculation to the lower.&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>[SK] Please DO NOT hijack the topic by telling us the human production statistic. The context here is about Lee Kuan Yew and Malaysians, don&#8217;t bring racial issues into the discussion, stick to the topic!</b></p>
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